I know this is lazy of me, but I do not have the time to post a proper analysis of this yet. However, you need somewhere to discuss this without being labeled as “ABCers” or “UNC Blinders Wearing Homers With Your Head In The Sand”.

ESPN write up is here.

CBSSports.com is here.

Yahoo Sports is here.

Shadrach Thornton – Why? Just why?

One of the lone bright spots for the NC State football team this year was the play of one Shadrach Thornton.  Unfortunately, the running back is once again facing legal issues.  Already having one assault charge deferred back in June, Thornton could be in very hot water with a new sexual assault charge possibly pending.  No details have been released in regards to the new investigation, but when the Po-Po arrived at his College Inn apartment they found weed in his room, as well as in the common area and in J.J. Jones room.  Jones, who has already announced that he is transferring, also had a bottle of Naproxen, which is basically a prescription version of Aleve.  Jones, however, was not the name on the label.

Based on the weed alone, you can bet your sweet ass that Thornton’s time at NC State is finished.  He will absolutely be facing those charges from back in June now, and NC State is not the kind of institution that looks kindly on its players hitting or abusing women.  

I’m not going to kill either guy for smoking dope.  When you are on the football team though, and getting a free education (whether you are taking advantage of it or not) you just have to know better.  While Thornton’s play on the field will be missed, this type of off-field shenanigans will not be.  I have zero tolerance for anyone who lays a hand on a woman, and even less if there is any form of sexual assault involved.  IF he is guilty, I hope he rots down Western Boulevard for a while.

Jon Tenuta Spurns Illinois, Stays at NC State

Yesterday we learned that Jon Tenuta was leaving NC State to become the DC at the University of Illinois.  Here at TSB, we alluded to the fact that Fedora plucking Koenning from the DC role at Illinois created a hole in the NC State staff, due to Tenuta leaving to take the DC job.  Then we learned that Tenuta may have had a change of heart, or that NC State was trying desperately to keep Tenuta around.  Now it is a done deal, and based on this release from Illinois we know that Tenuta will indeed be staying home in Raleigh.  Why?  Apparently because of NC State baseball:

“From the top, I want to say that Illinois is a great program and I think the world of Tim Beckman,” Tenuta said. “I’ve known Beck for 20 years and I have no doubt that with the staff he is putting together, he will have Illinois at the top of the Big Ten very soon. However, my family comes first and I may have made a decision without fully thinking through the situation with them. My son is a senior in high school and has signed a letter of intent to play baseball at N.C. State, and it is something I just don’t want to miss. I was one of the first people to contact Beck and congratulate him on the opportunity at Illinois, and I wish him and the Illini nothing but the best.”

Good for Tenuta, as the opportunity to watch his son play is tremendous, and also because we are sure that he also was granted either a promotion with a nice raise, or just a raise.  So in the end, Fedora may have cost NC State some money, but that is ok if it keeps Tenuta around for a few more years.

Dabo Wins Bobby Dodd Award

Wow.  Dabo Swinney was just named the Bobby Dodd Coach of the YearHeather Dinich has a good piece up at ESPN bringing to light some of Swinney’s accomplishments this year.  When you look at these together, it helps explain why he was the unanimous winner of the natty in coaching.

  • Clemson’s first 10 win season in 21 years (1988 under Danny Ford, who is the last Clemson coach to win the Bobby Dodd in 1981 when Clemson went 12 – 0 and won the mythical natty.
  • First ACC title in 20 years (1991 under Ken Hatfield)

Clemson, which has been basically all hype, no substance the past two decades is due for a comeupance.  If they can beat west Virginia in the Orange Bowl they should practically feel the boost in recruiting.  Clemson becoming a force again would be perfect timing for the ACC, and great for college football in general.  Congrats to Coach Swinney, now go get a W in your meaningless football game, the ACC needs some wins.

Mike London Faces

Yo, Seth Greenberg thinks Mike London is too expressive on the sidelines, you guys.


This weekend produced lots of great stuff:

– Virginia Tech rolls into Charlotte, while Clemson limps in

– NC State wakes up in the 2nd half and embarrasses Maryland

UNC beat Duke in the only college rivalry where the football game is seen on TV by fewer people than when they match-up in basketball

– Finally, we appear to be set for an LSU / Bama rematch in the BCS Championship


Discuss, suckas!

NC State Continues To Own UNC-CH

The NC State Wolfpack defeated the UNC-CH Tarheels by a score of 13 – 0 at Carter Finley Stadium on Saturday.  The score does not depict how badly the Tarheels were over-matched by their neighbors in West Raleigh, however.  This was the first time that the Pack has shutout the Heels since 1960.

The best stat I have seen from this game is that with something like five minutes to go in the second, State had more points (10) than the Heels had total yards (9).  State basically ran the clock out the entire second half, and in doing so won its fifth straight time against their non-rivals.  The flagship could only muster three total rushing yards the entire game, to go along with a paltry 162 passing yards.  The Pack’s offense did not fare that much better, throwing for only 164 yards and gaining just 290 total yards.

It was a defensive fare to say the least, and it will be interesting to watch these two squads finish out the season.  NC State still needs two more wins to become bowl eligible, while UNC-CH has already achieved that status.  While I previously said that State does not deserve to go to a bowl game, it looks likely that they could make it to one with just BC, Clemson and Maryland standing in the way.

The bad news for Wolfpack fans is that there is no love lost between BC and State, nor is there between the Pack and the Turtles.  Oh, and Clemson is pretty damned good too.  So if State does indeed win two of their last three, I will have no issues with them going to a bowl game, or with Tom O’Brien keeping his job.  If they do not make a bowl game, however, that 5 – 0 record against the USS-Tarheels will not be enough to save him.

Another great thing about this game, from a Wolfpack perspective, is that now even redshirt Seniors at UNC-CH have no idea what it feels like to beat NC State in football.

Box score is here.

TOB Adds Some Jet Fuel

Well that did not take long.  NC State’s Tom O’Brien fired back at Everett Withers after practice today:

As far as the flagship, here was a guy (Withers) who was on a football staff that ends up in Indianapolis.” He went on to say, “You have an agent on staff, you are paying players & you have academic fraud. That’s a triple play.

More on the academics:

At our school, number one, all classes have a syllabus. Our guys go to school, they are not given grades, and they graduate.

It should be noted that real graduation rates for the TOB era at NC State are not available, as he is in his 5th year at the school.

Quotes taken from WRAL Sports Fan, which also has the audio of both the Withers and TOB rants.

Withers Throws A Log On the Fire

Everett “Freaking” Withers.  Someone better check his medications, because something is not right when less than a week removed from having your AD in front of the NCAA defending your program’s infractions that involve academics, you probably should not be spouting off about your rival’s academics.  Just saying.

Withers was on with our man Joe Ovies at 99theFan and said this:

When you have as many schools in this state as we have, and the recruiting base gets watered down a bit, I think the kids in this state need to know the flagship school in this state,” Withers said.

“They need to know it academically. If you look at our graduation rates, as opposed to our opponent’s this week, graduation rates for athletics, for football, you’ll see a difference. … If you look at the educational environment here, I think you’ll see a difference.

Slow down, big guy.  It might not be the best idea to give a team that was brutally embarrassed last weekend more bulletin board material heading into what is already their most circled date on the calendar.  Withers went on to question why NC State would be more motivated to play them than they are to play anyone else.  Hey, Coach, look inside your own mouth and you will see some reasons for that extra motivation.
I am not here to defend NC State’s academics, but last time I checked they did not have tutors writing papers for players, or players blatantly copy and pasting off the Googles and the Internets and passing it off as their own work.  Need I even mention that NC State is not the University that had its own “honor court” miss this in their “review”?  If I am a UNC-CH coach, I am not mentioning academics right now.  Period.

TOB on the hot seat? Hate Week Open Thread

Saturday 12:30pm, Carter-Finley Stadium

After the 34-0 drubbing in Tallahassee the rumblings are getting louder about TOB’s future at State. Is this a “must win”? Some Statefans have been waxing poetic about the “good ol’ days” with Amato.

Will an interim coach come into Raleigh and do what Butch Davis never did? Win a game vs NC State. UNC will be looking for their first win at Carter-Finley since 2006.  The win over Wake Forest made UNC bowl eligible.  Will a win finally silence  the Heelfans who still say “things would be better if Butch was still  here”.

Both teams are below .500 in the ACC, State needs to win three out of their last four to make it to a bowl game. This is a big game for the Wolfpack and TOB.  UNC, coming off that impressive win against Wake, is wanting to  snap their losing streak against State before traveling up to Blacksburg two weeks later.